I like the personal involvement from Evan re size selection. Certainly shows customer care above and beyond. The pants come in a custom cloth bag, for which I pay but is going immediately in the landfill. Please drop that. Thanks. Fabric is soft and pleasant, cut is hugging around calves, more roomy around thighs-hips. Not much difference between M and L. It is odd that the standard version has short crop legs (fashion trend?); fortunately there is a long leg option. The pockets have a weird shallow cut, so anything that is put in them will fall out in no time, particularly when seated. The zipper pocket will be more secure and can accommodate a cell phone. The drawstring has some copper-colored metal rings, that I removed immediately. It would be nice if the drawstrings could be threaded through holes to the inside of the pants to hide them. Dangling strings in front of pants look silly.
I like to support local independent CA businesses. I will not return them, but if I could have tried them in a store, I am not sure I would have bought them.
